Saturday, June 20, 2009

$$$ v/s Brains

A week back an interesting debate was sparked between me and a good friend on intelligence and money. The debate started with a single statement - " A degree in management (MBA) is all about money making but PhD is seeking intelligence." As surprised as I was on such a refutable comparison, it made me challenge my thoughts on how I can defend a profession I intend to pursue in the coming years. We bombed thoughts and views across like it was a battle field and the victorious will have the satisfaction of justifying once call on pursuing a particular career path.
Generationalizing from a family of well educated individuals with a PhD next to their name, I had to be careful not to undermine the achievements they have attained in their field, during the process of defending my reasons and views of how an MBA degree equally reflects your capabilities by challenging you intellectually in par of a post doctorate degree.
So, is pursuing a MBA only about money making and not about intelligence ? Is having a PhD one of the best ways to project your intellectual proclivity? Does, being qualified as a doctorate have an upper hand as apposed to having a business degree? Some might argue this comparison has no base because both can at times go hand in hand, for example- a PhD in Business management ! But what I am trying to point out here is a comparison of how intellectually challenging these two qualifications are.
Today an entrance into a leading B-School is matter of pride for many young students and professionals. The process of admissions have gotten tougher with time due to the increase in competition and talent around the globe. Globalization within campuses have increased the awareness among non-economic background aspirants. Collaborations with international universities have given students the opportunity to adventure away from their current profession. The staggering pay checks,reputation and power in Wall St. has enticed the world to take this profession seriously. Alumnus from reputed institutions from around the world took center stage either in global businesses for eg. Mukesh Ambani, Donald Trump, Ratan Tata, Anand Mahindra etc.. and in statesmanship for eg. P. Chidambaram, Michael Bloomberg, George Yeo etc...These people have shaped the the world in their own ways with intelligence, knowledge and innovation. None of the above have a doctorate degree but rank among the most influential people in the world. They have run successful business which have shaped the market for the world from the automotive sector to petroleum to real estate to running countries/cities finance and governing body successfully. We find their names and brands in every walk of life with many being role models and icon to aspiring businessmen. Does it mean they are in only in for the money and have no stimulating intellect? Doesn't it sound weird that they achieved so much and had little intellectual proclivity as compared to a doctorate who dedicates his/her life to research and intellectual supremacy (as the notion goes).
Does, having a MBA degree alone qualify you for influx of $$ in your bank account? With every passing year, business school have been mushrooming in every corner , but those who make it to the top are those who have worked for it and have the intelligence to apply, what I love calling a glorified personality development course. It matter from where and who edifies you that course. An admission into a Ivy league B-School requires a strong resume, a strong score, creativity and sound intellect. The combination of these traits and the tag of a prestigious school helps you propel further.
On the other hand, a doctorate might have worked for five to six years to attain his degree but during the course of this work there are many who lose track of reality and real world situations. There have been discoveries and researchs carried out which cannot be applied to real world and can only be added to text books as references. Can we claim such a doctorate intelligent, who has the knowledge and skills of research but cannot produce findings which is acceptable and practical in everyday life. There have been many great doctorates in the field of science and even business who have formulated strategies and techniques which have proven to be very useful to a MBA student, who then take that learning and knowledge, and applies it to the real world with a hint of self contributed intellect.
The contributions from renowned erudite scholars like John Forbes Nash, Jr whose work on Game Theory to the most recent Dr. Paul Krugman's "Analysis of trade patterns and location of economic activity" have helped business admin students understand and apply various strategies to run a successful and lucrative business, not only satisfying personal gains but also meeting the growing demands of the world. It is these MBA degree holders who have made these findings practical in the real world and tested their viability which intern has led to further studies and innovations both in the field of research and business.
At the end a doctorate degree or a business management degree, one will need intellect, creativity and presence of mind to make it to the top . A degree alone cannot say if you or me are intellectually or monetarily inclined.

11 comments:

  1. This blog is like comparing apples and oranges. Both are degrees but cater to different genre of professionals. To say that research done during PhD for 5-6 years mostly ends up in textbooks and cannot be applied to the real world is being utterly callow. Even though you may think studying about basic biology is nothing to do with the real world well it cannot get more real than this. It is the very essence of what we are made off. What makes us "US". Our DNA. How does our heart beat 72 times a minute? How could we put a man on the moon? No matter how far fetched everything is related. You never know in science what you discover is going to be the next big thing. What might appear in the text books may open a new field of research 10 years from then. Do you think Madame Curie knew she would get the nobel prize for her theory of radioactivity. Little did she know while she was writing her thesis that what she discovered would be used for treating cancer in latter years. Why do these poor grad students waste their life studying the life cycle and functioning of some rare unknown species. Well the rate at which organisms mutate and can jump from say pigs to humans so much so that WHO had to declare swine flu a phase 6 pandemic is reason enough I think. Who could have thought that studying a one cell plant like algae would lead to a new era in bio-fuels that now people think of it as the holy grail of bio-fuels. Just because the research may not appeal to the public now does not give anyone the right to disregard it as useless to everyday use. Scientific research has it downside. It has a long gestation period, a high failure to success ratio, a tremendous knack to envision the future and is not lucrative enough.
    The above argument is not about intelligence. Its about the ultimate goal of the people who pursue the degrees. No one pursues PhD to become a millionaire. Quiet far from it. They do it for the love of science, the passion to discover something new everyday and the the satisfaction at the end of the day that they made a small contribution to better understanding LIFE.
    Yes as you say a degree alone cannot say if you are more intellectually or monetarily inclined but I think the question that should be asked to people who want to pursue an MBA degree is what is their ultimate goal. Ask a general public walking out of a MBA college why they got into this program?
    I do not have an answer to that as I am but a poor grad student trying to put a small chapter in a textbook to lie on a shelf in the dusty corner of the library.

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  2. Nice to see a reply from you on this topic. I am surprised you did not jump at me a week back. But I can understand you were busy in your research lab trying to discover something and had no time to read a blog!!! No offense!

    A very defensive argument. One thing I observed in your argument was you kept speaking about science. I am sure you are aware that its not only science which drives this world! To react to your views, which I am very eager to...You got the essence of the argument wrong once again. I never looked down upon a doctorate degree. My father, grand father and uncles have slogged those precious 5-6 years ( or even shorter) to get that degree and few have continued their career in research. I respect the degree to a great level but argue on a statement which calls it all about intelligence and a degree in business about money. I tried pointing out in this blog the correlation which exists. Intelligence is used by businessmen or corporate experts to apply theories formulated by erudite scholors holding doctorates. Those are the people who actully incorporate these theories in the real world after understanding them.
    Coming to your field, research done by doctorates are being applied by doctors and commercial biotech companies to cure people and make money from patients....
    I hope you will not argue with the point that 'all PhD's dedicate their life to research'. Atleast 50% ( being very lenient) end up in commercial business making money and doing research. You have to agree a PhD stands a higher probability to get a look at for a job over a Masters student. Again at the end it will come down to who is more practical and intelligent (irrespective of the degree). This figure doesnt stand only to biology as such, it is true for all fields. If you become a professors you will make money, if you become a research scientist you will make money , if you do consultancy you will make money, you apply the theories and formulae of researchers you make money... at the end the perk for discovering something new and applying something found is a compensation in the form for Gandhi or Washington. You will get all the above on having the intelligence to apply these findings. So be it a MBA or PhD, it all comes down to intelligence if you want to succeed in your field.
    Not every MBA graduate will make money unless he/she are smart and not every PhD student will discover something unless they have the knowledge and INTELLIGENCE.
    So as you write your small chapter in a text book, I hope something fruitful comes out of it and you also land up making lots of money!!

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  3. Yes how things turn out is all up to you. I am not saying just because a person is doing a PhD he is intelligent and just because someone is doing MBA he is going to be rich. In the end the person will succeed if he is really good in his field. For that he has to be really good in what the field demands off him. Mind you scientist also have to learn some marketing skills to be able to market themselves as probable productive amenities to a company or university. MBA graduates take courses in marketing but if they are not vocal and opinionated no one is going to hire them. They have to be smart enough to gauge what the company demands and intelligent to predict the market. So in the end to be successful you have to be the best in what you do and you need to know exactly what you need to do. The question was again in a general public if you asked the question why would you want to do an MBA or why would you want to do a PhD you will get two very different answers. Very different.

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  4. I rest my case... you concured to my views! All my arguments were to the comment laid in the blog. Thank you

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  6. Well the case just took a turn...We agree on how it ends. What a MBA grad or a PhD student ends up doing in life is very different from why they decided to enter the program in the first place. Think why you really want to do an MBA and you'll have the answer

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  7. Again...Doing MBA doesn’t always mean Money. It’s about intelligence. Not everyone can do MBA and be successful if they do not know how to apply what they have learnt. When you ask me about my reasons for MBA, it because of my love for authority, people skills and managing skills. Those are my forte and I feel comfortable doing a job related to it. What comes with it is a remunerations and recognition to the efforts put to fulfill the task and perform it effectively.

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  8. I think all this is as simple as this. Pursue what you think interests you. Opportunities always come knocking by...no matter what degree you have!

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  9. Apples and Oranges as Dwitiya said. Each one caters to different people. Money is always a tertiary quotient.
    You migth say how? Google owners, both Standford Phd, richer than any Stern school grad.

    Next, the phrase 'I would love to call it glorified personality development.......'. Contradicting.

    Glorified personality Dev? - Abhi sorry to say, but you are insulting a lot of people and their credentials here. :( Generalization which offended me too.

    Again, Krugman is a dick. Jim Rogers has called more economic activities spot on than Krugman, but Krugman gets nobel and Jim Rogers gets shit on CNN. Ask me why? Jim hates the Federal Reserve.

    PS: Only two economists have gotten a Nobel who were for abolishing Fed, Milton Freidman is one. Next time if any of us are vying for a Nobel in Econ, we better love the non-elected, unaccounted FedRes. :D

    You should check (www.mises.org) , an Aunstrian economists think tank. Smart people, people who shred Krugman, Friedman of Times on a same platter.

    Did you know Krugman was in the Enron boards when Enron was cheating the state of California?
    Basically, he was aware of it, but he didn't do anything to stop the fraud. So much for Nobel!

    Not to miss the bigger point, I reckon MBA in the top Western coutnries/Univ requires a lot more steam than a Phd at GaTech!

    Roshan

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  10. Not to be offensive Abhi, you must proof read your blogs and a bit of research, coz we all click on your blog and spend our valuable five mins. It should be worth the ride, y'know.

    Actually, a personal comment, I like this Abhi than the older Abhi, now I have so much to talk to Abhi than before, a passing thought.

    Cheers mate!

    Roshan

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  11. I think I solved the standoff, Dartmouth, Tuck school of Business has a dual degree an integrated PhD with an MBA> Check it out. I can't paste the link as the past is disabled on this page.

    If you want it I can send you the details, the program is a new concept which will go into play only nextyear.

    Ro

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